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Post by saturdaysheros on Sept 4, 2006 1:16:45 GMT -5
26 January 2002 - Chelsea v West Ham United About 200 West Ham fans drinking in two pubs at Putney Bridge station tried to break away from their police escort and a stand-off ensued. The group was eventually marched to Fulham Broadway tube station where they again tried to break through the police line. After the match the West Ham group tried to confront the Chelsea hooligans on the Kings Road. Graeme Le Saux was hit by a coin in the ground. Some Chelsea were seriously injured through the day.
*2003- 10-29 a group of 60 lads from WHU attacks the Tottenham supporters' pub, The thingyerel, on Tottenham High Road. They run the Yids and trash the PUB. When they regroup the number have grown up to 75-100 and they chase Yids all over the place and trash two more PUB´s. Once again ICF is back. 93 West Ham lads get arrested.
*2004-04-21 Millwall Away: ICF took the piss all day in in Bermonsdey pubs and inside and outside the ground besides that: Under 5´s got battered on Saturaday night as they were brave to cross the river a day before. But they were outnumbered by the Millwall firm during the evening. Big respect to you. Crowd trouble marred the English first division match between Millwall and West Ham United on Sunday. Mounted police were needed to restore order at Millwall's New Den stadium as trouble flared in the second half of the crucial promotion battle between the London rivals. According to BBC radio, West Ham fans tried to invade the pitch when Millwall, leading 3-1, were awarded a penalty and West Ham goalkeeper Stephen Bywater was sent off. Riot police and mounted officers had to secure the away section of the ground yesterday as Hammers fans tore up anti-racism banners and tried to force their way on to the pitch. The final 30 minutes of Millwall's 4-1 win was soured by the sight of more than 50 police officers blocking about 250 West Ham fans from getting on to the pitch.The match had attracted a massive security operation, with a reported 1,000 police officers on duty in and around the stadium close by the River Thames.
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Post by saturdaysheros on Sept 4, 2006 1:17:38 GMT -5
During the 70's, 80's and early 90's West Ham United had what was proberly the country's best known and largest Hooligan firm. "The Inter city Firm" ( ICF ). The group in those days had it's roots in the area's around the East End. Canning Town, Plaistow, Stratford all provided lads who were to become legendary in the pubs and terraces at West Ham. Further out along the A13 has always been West Ham "country" and big groups came from Romford, Barking & Dagenham on the outskirts of East London and many more from further out into Essex. All these groups came together on match days and were an awesome firm and would see off any rivals willing to try there luck in the streets around the ground.
Many supporters from other clubs now talk about the 'most frightening walk' in English football being the walk from Upton Park Station to the Stadiums 'away fans' section in the South bank, unfortunately for them they were very often far from safe once they got inside the Ground as well. West ham lads would queue up and go into the away section causing mayhem and if that was not possible, then the segregation in the old South bank was only one fence with an open gate half way up. Occasionally the few police that use to mind the gate would go missing and the hordes of West Ham's south bank lads would pile through and into the shocked away support. Many of the ICF's top lads could also be found in the Lower West side at West Ham, they would gather in the corner where the West stand and the South bank meet, they could taunt the visitors all through the game and if it did go 'off', then it was across the small wall and after only a yard or two they would be in the away section.
Away games saw the ICF move into a league of their own. The organised supporters travel would be ignored and in the early days the firm would travel via the Rail network, arriving in towns well away from the official supporters clubs and with the element of surprise in their favour. Later, coaches would be hired and an early morning meet in one of various pubs would see 3 or 4 easily filled and loads of cars and vans would follow the main group out of East London. London games saw some of the biggest battles and the London Underground with it's maze of tunnels would be used to get across London without the Police being able to keep track of the firm. In those days entrance to grounds and more to the point the "Home" end was easy. No tickets were needed you just queued up and in you went. Especially in London where the accent didn't give you away ! !
During the 90's the ICF began to slow down. As did all the large hooligan groups across the country, lots of media type people and observers have wrote rubbish about Raves, Court cases ( failed !), CCTV and Police being the reasons for the trouble at football being a lot less than in previous years. My feeling is that the introduction of all ticket games is the biggest reason. Most Premier league football is sold out months in advance, tickets are sold to Club members or via Season tickets and large groups intent on trouble simply cant get a seat for today's games. Why travel all the way across the country if you know for certain that you wont be able to watch the game, dont believe all the idiots in "suits", most football hooligans are still football supporters and DO want to watch the match. All this does not mean that the ICF is finished. Recent years has seen more and more incidents involving the ICF and although they are not on the same scale as before, it is likely that the firm will get bigger as more are attracted to the "Buzz", and more pubs etc will be taken . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
National Criminal Intelligence Service Football Disorder Reports.
These are reports copied directly from the NCIS 'season reviews' as posted on their web site.
Season 1999 / 2000
Chelsea v West Ham 07/11/99 Premier League. .......Chelsea and West Ham supporters clashed prior to this fixture. Police, including mounted branch officers then broke up the rival factions. Four arrests were made for affray and the rival supporters were escorted away.
West Ham United v Manchester United 18/12/99 Premier League. ......... At the end of this fixture the rival supporters attempted to confront each other. Disorder was prevented by the intervention of police, involving mounted branch officers and dog handlers. One police officer was injured when a bin was thrown at him. The Manchester supporters, now numbering around 75, were held near Upton Park Station and then escorted onwards by police. The West Ham supporters groups, numbering around 50, were at Plaistow Station. It was apparent that the two groups were in contact with each other via mobile phones. Both sets of supporters made their way to Euston. They again attempted to confront each other but were prevented from doing so by police.
Leicester City v West Ham 22/01/00 Premier League. ..........A group of thirty Leicester supporters attacked a public house where 20 West Ham supporters were drinking. Bottles, chairs and ashtrays were used during the attack. Police attended and separated the rival groups.
Watford v West Ham 04/03/00 Premier League. .......... About 30 - 40 West Ham supporters clashed with Watford supporters before the above fixture. Disorder occurred with fighting in the street and bricks and bottles were thrown through the windows of a public house. Six West Ham supporters were arrested.
Season 2000 / 2001
West Ham United v Manchester United 26/08/2000 Premier League. ..........Serious disorder occurred after the game in the Aldgate area. BTP dog handlers managed to separate a large group of fighting supporters
Ipswich Town v West Ham United 14/10/2000 - Premier League . ...........At around 7.30 pm a group of 40 Ipswich supporters approached the public house where the West Ham supporters were drinking. The Ipswich supporters stood outside and taunted the West Ham group. Police held the West Ham group in the pub and the Ipswich group then confronted police and arrests were made. Police used batons and CS spray during the disorder.
West Ham United v Newcastle United 28/10/2000 - Premier League. ............A group of West Ham fans tried to attack Newcastle fans on a London Underground station. When prevented from doing so by police they began smashing fittings on the train. Four people were arrested.
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur 11/03/2001 - FA Cup Quarter Final
At 3.15 pm a Spurs group numbering 60 were escorted to the stadium. 20 people were left in a public house with police monitoring them. During the escort a number of West Ham supporters shadowed the escort a large police presence prevented disorder. At 6 pm pub containing the 20 Spurs supporters was attacked by a small number of West Ham fans. Police disperssed the West Ham group. The Spurs group then attacked police. Shields were used by police and ten Spurs fans were arrested. The main Spurs group at the stadium was escorted to Upton Park station. Police then placed them on the tube system. They were escorted to Liverpool Street and settled in a public house. At 8.30 pm this group was confronted by a group of 30 West Ham supporters, but BTP intervention prevented disorder. The two groups were dispersed. At around 9.15 pm the Spurs group numbering around 14 people were arrested.
Season 2002 / 03
26 January 2002 - Chelsea v West Ham United
About 200 West Ham fans drinking in two pubs at Putney Bridge station tried to break away from their police escort and a stand-off ensued. The group was eventually marched to Fulham Broadway tube station where they again tried to break through the police line. After the match the West Ham group tried to confront the Chelsea hooligans on the Kings Road. Graeme Le Saux was hit by a coin in the ground. Some Chelsea were seriously injured through the day.
Trouble involving West Ham also occured at Manchester United, Birmingham and various home games through the season.
Season 2003 / 04
29th October 2003 - Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham United (Carling Cup)
Rampaging West Ham supporters started pitched battles with rival fans from Tottenham in North London before the Carling Cup game.
Tottenham High Road was described in press reports as resembling something of a battlefield after West Ham tore up several pubs associated with their opponents.
One of the main watering holes for Spurs fans - The thingyerel - was the central target for the hooligans who left its customers cowering inside after launching a vicious attack.
Police Said - The pub suffered "extensive damage" and a number of West Ham fans were later arrested at nearby Northumberland Park for criminal damage and violent disorder. "skirmishes" continued throughout the afternoon and evening on the High Road and at least two other pubs were damaged.
Questions are already being asked as to why the Police allowed such a large group of away fans to infiltrate rival areas so far ahead of the start of the game.
22nd March 2004 - Millwall v West Ham
The Sun Online :
Eight police horses charged on to the pitch and riot cops had to stamp out aggro by shameful Hammers fans, who saw their team taken apart. The violence was triggered by keeper Stephen Bywater’s sending off in the 60th minute of a volatile derby clash. Upton Park boss Pardew said: “You can’t condone that behaviour. But, by the same token the frustration that was coming from the pitch was always going to make our fans edgy. “We have to take responsibilty for that.”
Trouble flared when around 200 of the 2,900 visiting supporters attempted to bust through security cordons to get at rival fans. Scuffles broke out with stewards and some of the 1,100 officers on duty for the biggest police operation in British football history, costing £270,000.
And a huge-anti racism banner was ripped up. Two Hammers fans were arrested inside the ground for smashing up the toilets and a further three were ejected for causing disorder.
West Ham have also put out large firms for away trips including Cardiff and various other 1st Div games at home including Millwall & Cardiff .
Season 2004 / 05
Tuesday 26th October 2004
BBC News Online
Cardiff City fans were attacked in a pub by football hooligans from West Ham United, who travelled to a match in Bournemouth they were not even involved in, police have said. The 50 London hooligans hired a coach and travelled 115 miles to spark a mass brawl before Cardiff's Coca-Cola Cup tie on Tuesday night.
Police are now studying CCTV footage ahead of the league match in Cardiff with West Ham next Tuesday. Dorset Police made four arrests. A Cardiff fan in his mid 20s suffered a broken jaw after being struck by a brick and needed hospital treatment. A second Bluebirds' fan was treated for facial injuries.
Police said that the London hooligans posed as ordinary customers at the Queens Park pub close to Bournemouth's stadium. But on cue, they launched into a rendition of I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles, West Ham's trademark song, and started fighting.
The brawl spilled outside and, after a wall was demolished, bricks were thrown. A dozen police officers who were on patrol outside the pub managed to control the trouble and made four arrests.
Inspector Martin Webster of Dorset said Tuesday night's trouble had been well-organised on the part of West Ham hooligans. He said the men were dressed in designer clothing. "Normally with these sort of things we get some sort of prior warning from a network of football intelligence-led police officers. "But we received no information even though it appeared to be very well organised on the part of the fans from London.
"They hired a coach specifically to drive them from London to Bournemouth. They liaised with each other beforehand as they were not wearing their teams' colours. "It appears the Cardiff supporters did not arrange to meet them. "They came here to have a few drinks and then watch the football. On the whole they were well behaved. "But at around 7pm between 35 and 50 people got off the coach and went to the Queens Park pub."
A barman at the pub said: "A coach load from London pulled up and came in and started mingling and acting as normal punters. "Then a few minutes later they started singing I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles, and with that all hell broke loose. "It was absolute chaos with people with blood down their faces. It spilled outside and the fighting carried on."
Four coach loads of Cardiff fans and other supporters in cars had travelled down for the game,
Gwyn Davies of the Valleys Rams supporters' club said there was "pandemonium" in the pub. "About 20 or 30 West Ham fans burst in - a few others had been at the bar beforehand. "Our fans defended themselves, and also there were old men there, women and children.
"It was crazy, there was no warning - it was a mild evening and I'd been out in the beer garden talking to police from Cardiff and Bournemouth."
Mr Davies said he believed that the supporter with the broken jaw would need three operations.
A Bournemouth supporter who saw the group moments before the violence started said: "They appeared quite drunk and rowdy.
"I thought it was odd because they had London accents and none of them were wearing any football colours."
Police have arrested two men from London and two from the Bournemouth area for public order offences. They are aged between 19 and 30.
Officers are also examining CCTV footage in a bid to identify the troublemakers and will also report the incident to South Wales Police ahead of Cardiff's game in the Championship against West Ham on 2 November.
But Mr Davies said he did not think there would be trouble.
"We've not had trouble in Cardiff for a good while, the police have got the situation well under control.
"We heard one West Ham fan bragging that they had come down on Tuesday night as that was their chance, as they would not be able to do the same next week."
27th October 2004 - Chelsea v West Ham Utd (Coca Cola League Cup)
BBC News Online
Eleven fans were arrested after clashing with police during Chelsea's 1-0 win over West Ham at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday night.
Police in riot gear were confronted by visiting supporters in a corner section of the ground 10 minutes after the Carling Cup tie ended. Scotland Yard confirmed the arrests for alleged public order, drugs and offensive weapon offences.
During the match goalscorer Mateja Kezman was hit by a missile.
It took police 15 minutes to restore order and a child was being treated for injuries relating to a crush.
Kezman refused to talk in detail about the incident afterwards and had a small cut just on the eyebrow above his left eye.
He said: "It was just a small accident, I'm not sure what happened. I am fine."
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Post by Grimdog on Sept 4, 2006 7:01:40 GMT -5
Admin,take it you're an Hammer then? I have never seen WHU put up a decent show at OT and i'm not saying that cos i'm biased.I remember them coming into the scoreboard paddock and getting legged out rather sharpish.There was a documentary on around 1988 ish which followed West Ham to Old Trafford where they took a good beating throughout the day.
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Post by saturdaysheros on Sept 4, 2006 10:00:42 GMT -5
no am not whu, am oldham
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Post by bob67 on Mar 14, 2016 15:16:57 GMT -5
Heard from a yid they took a proper old firm over west ham but no show from the hammers.
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